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Master Smith Mike Williams Demonstrates Blade Grinding Techniques

Mastersmith Mike Williams demonstrates the techniques involved in grinding a forged blade from beginning to final grind in this very informative video. Mastersmiths JR Cook and Jerry Fisk provide the narration and ask questions in the background during this grinding demonstration which is displayed on the ABS YouTube Channel. This is the first in a series of bladesmithing techniques videos that were made for the ABS Website by Mastersmiths Mike Williams, JR Cook, and Jerry Fisk.

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Posted : 01/07/2011 5:36 pm
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Very cool Dan. I like it, especially the comedy stylings of Mister Cook and Mister Fisk. A lot of good information.

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Posted : 01/07/2011 11:21 pm
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This is gonna be a dumb question but I don't even see the photo. I have adobe and java installed but no clue why I can't see this. Anyone have ideas on how to check for what's wrong?+

 
Posted : 04/07/2011 10:11 pm
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Kevin

It is a YouTube video. I tested it and I can view it on my Windows, Apple, and Android devices.

This is the direct link for the video clip on YouTube: http://www.youtube.c...BlTfyTkk&sns=em

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Posted : 04/07/2011 10:27 pm
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Guys I have a dumb question, After Mr. Williams did the grinding he said that he was ready for heat treating, I have always taken my grinding to 220 grit on the belt sander and 320 grit, by hand with the sanding marks running the length of the blade. The way Mr. Williams shows this blade, the sanding marks are running from the spine to the edge. I guess my question is does it make a difference.

Thanks for any info.

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Posted : 05/07/2011 11:23 am
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No Dana, not a dumb question at all. Mike, as with a lot of smiths, has experimented many times and has determined what he does works. I myself do approximately the same thing as Mike. I make sure to radius the blunted edge a little with the grinding marks lengthwise since the edge is where it is most likely to form a stress riser. In some cases, I take it a little farther. It really depends on the circumstances. The main thing is to start straight and with even grinds. Consistant, even heating, attention to grain reduction, all contribute to a successful quench.

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Posted : 05/07/2011 8:28 pm
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Thanks Lin, i have been making sure that every line is running down the blade, not alot of hand sanding but some, if I can make this work it will save some time. I will try this on the next one, if not I go back to what I know

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Posted : 05/07/2011 8:39 pm
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Kevin

It is a YouTube video. I tested it and I can view it on my Windows, Apple, and Android devices.

This is the direct link for the video clip on YouTube: http://www.youtube.c...BlTfyTkk&sns=em

Well, I can get to it on my son's laptop but not my desktop. I reinstalled the Flash, the browser, etc so I think I am just going to give up. No clue why my PC hates knifemaking...

Kevin

 
Posted : 05/07/2011 8:55 pm
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Kevin:

I am glad that you were able to view Master Smith Mike Williams' video on Grinding.

What did you think of the content and the presentation? Do you get more out of demonstrations presented on video than in a written description? I want to move us in the direction of making more video demonstrations available on the ABS Website and Forum and am looking for input from our ABS members.

Any ABS member can also reply.

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Posted : 05/07/2011 9:25 pm
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Mr. Cassidy-

I find the instructional videos very helpful as a new guy-thank you for taking the time to post them. For instance, I've watched MS Lin Rhea's forging video several times and keep getting something new each time. One thing I've enjoyed is looking at all the JS and MS websites-some have great tutorial videos. It would be great itf there was some way to put links on a subforum or page with tutorials, WIP's, etc for those not put on the ABS YouTube channel. It's very interesting to me to see how different smiths are able to accomplish the same task through different means.

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Posted : 06/07/2011 10:01 pm
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Jeremy

Thank you for your reply. I am working on a few more instructional videos and plan to post them soon. I also have a few more ideas for video presentations and as soon as I purchase and learn the software I will be posting them as well.

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Posted : 06/07/2011 11:42 pm
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Dan

I'm still trying to get any video to run on this silly thing as the kid screams when I steal his laptop for my hobbies.

It was a great little clip. I found it preferable to text or still photos for a tutorial and I hope you add more soon. It's a great help to a newbie.

Kevin

 
Posted : 08/07/2011 7:19 pm
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...I've watched MS Lin Rhea's forging video several times and keep getting something new each time...

I'd love to see that. Where? It doesn't seem to be on the ABS Youtube channel. Is it a DVD?

 
Posted : 09/07/2011 10:51 pm
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...What did you think of the content and the presentation? Do you get more out of demonstrations presented on video than in a written description? I want to move us in the direction of making more video demonstrations available on the ABS Website and Forum and am looking for input from our ABS members...

Hi Dan,

I think the videos are GREAT! All sources of instruction are helpful. I learn the most when I get to do it under the tutelage of someone with expertise. The next best are probably demonstrations, but I don't get the instructions into my body (so to speak) as I'm not doing it myself and I forget a lot of the info. The videos are great because they are always there for reference and waaaaay better than any of the notes I (usually don't) take.

There are a few frustrating aspects to many instructional videos, but I hesitate to mention any. At the risk of sounding critical (which I assure you is not my intention) I'll share some in the approximate order of "negative" impact.

  1. Poor audio - Often demonstrators are difficult to hear in video recordings. This is especially compounded by the nature of our subject due to loud machinery, hammering, etc. I suspect it could often be improved with a mic placed on the person speaking though, rather than just the one on the camera, but in many cases it may not be available.
  2. Insufficient close-ups - Frequently the camera shots are just too far away to see adequately what is being demonstrated. This can be a bummer, especially if you've shelled out money for a DVD.
  3. Poor camera angles - It is quite common to not see what is going on due to the demonstrator's hand(s) or body being in the way. Often the shots are good from one side, but not the other. Such as, grinding to the right can be viewed but not to the left, etc. This is likely due to there being just one camera doing the shooting, thus would be difficult to resolve for most shoots.
  4. Superfluous images - Sometimes the artsy efforts at cinematography leave the viewer missing the actions of the demonstrators. Lengthy semi-relevant camera shots--of the shop, the dog, sparks flying, etc--while the demonstrator can be heard giving instructions and referring to actions the viewer can't see, can be a bit disappointing.

    The list of benefits and strength is much longer.

    [list]

  5. Unparalleled and superb subject/craft/trade expertise, wisdom and experience
  6. Detailed and thorough explanations
  7. Little tricks and short cuts
  8. Encouragement and inspiration
  9. Diverse ways of doing things
  10. Endless skill-sets from making steel from scratch, to metallurgy, to leather work, to photography, to smithing, to stock removal, to heat treating, to woodworking, to machining, to finishing, ect
  11. Instructions directed at anyone from novices to a masters
  12. Perspectives from artistry to machinery to philosophy to technology, ect
  13. Warmth of heart and humor
  14. Levels of resources used from simple shops and tools to quite sophisticated ones
  15. Not only how to use tools and equipment, but how to make them too
  16. Etc, etc, etc....

    I truly appreciate all the videos I have viewed, especially as they are so often generous gifts and educational efforts! Thanks sooooo much!

    All the best, Phil

     
Posted : 09/07/2011 11:33 pm
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I'd love to see that. Where? It doesn't seem to be on the ABS Youtube channel. Is it a DVD?

Phil, The video is on YouTube here. Thanks for drawing my eye back to this thread, I got to see Lin's video because of you <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//wink.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

Mike

 
Posted : 10/07/2011 5:21 pm
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