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I would encourage everyone to leave their normal comfort zone.  The best learnings (and failures) come from doing something different.  I had two clients ask for something I had never done before.  One was a spear. (I really underestimated and quoted on this one). It is forged from 5160 and I learned how hard it is to forge weld the socket when using 5160.  Next time I will use 5160 for the blade, and create a socket from mild steel then forgeweld it to the blade.  It is a 5'8" spear with Swedish Runes "Infinite Engine" etched into the blade.

 

The 2nd step away from my comfort zone was to create an Ulu with a customers supplied antler.  I did a 300 layer raindrop pattern damascas that is probably (IMHO) the nicest steel that I have done.  6" Ulu with antler handle.

Both of these projects really gave me a boost of confidence.

Bob Bryenton
Solar Storm Group Ltd.
Phone: (780) 953-0016
Email: [email protected]
https://www.solarstorm.ca

“The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible" -- Arthur C. Clarke

 
Posted : 09/01/2023 1:58 pm
Joshua C States
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Reputable Member Journeyman Bladesmith (5yr)
 

Nice work! The spear looks very cool. The Damascus on that Ulu came out sweet too.

Forgewelding 5160 to mild steel is a difficult forge weld at best. 5160 has high chromium content and forge welding it to itself is nigh impossible. Forge welding it to other steels is difficult, but doable.  Most of the guys I see making spears are using simple 10XX series steels for the blade and either wrought iron or mild for the socket.

“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

 
Posted : 12/01/2023 9:29 pm
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Thanks I wont lie, I only got about ½ of it forge welded because I didnt know this.  You graciously answered my other post and if I do another, I will probably use something else, at the very least for the socket.  I have seen some simply drill/lathe out a socket, but I dont have a lathe or mill, so the old hammer and heat all I have.

Bob Bryenton
Solar Storm Group Ltd.
Phone: (780) 953-0016
Email: [email protected]
https://www.solarstorm.ca

“The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible" -- Arthur C. Clarke

 
Posted : 13/01/2023 8:19 am
Joshua C States
Posts: 206
Reputable Member Journeyman Bladesmith (5yr)
 

Well, there is always breaking out the MIG welder and angle grinder.......

“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

 
Posted : 13/01/2023 12:21 pm
Posts: 51
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Shhhh...  (thats what I did at the end)

Bob Bryenton
Solar Storm Group Ltd.
Phone: (780) 953-0016
Email: [email protected]
https://www.solarstorm.ca

“The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible" -- Arthur C. Clarke

 
Posted : 13/01/2023 12:33 pm
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Copper Dragon - 240 layer Damascus CuMai.  120 layers of 15n20 and 1084 over a 1084 core.  Copper bolster and pommel with epoxy dragon scales for the handle.  6.25" blade with a 5" handle https://www.solarstorm.ca

Bob Bryenton
Solar Storm Group Ltd.
Phone: (780) 953-0016
Email: [email protected]
https://www.solarstorm.ca

“The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible" -- Arthur C. Clarke

 
Posted : 31/01/2023 8:52 am
Posts: 53
Trusted Member Apprentice Bladesmith
 

I am not having the best luck uploading, but I tried.

Respectfully and Godspeed,

Michael Samdahl
Logistician
Montana Man Forge
Youtube: https://youtube.com/@montanamanmarketing
@montanamanmarketing

 
Posted : 08/03/2023 11:08 am
Posts: 53
Trusted Member Apprentice Bladesmith
 

Wendell Bryenton, I am so interested in doing a copper Damascus. But I am confused on how your don't melt the copper into the steel forming a blended alloy instead of just a line. How does that work?

Respectfully and Godspeed,

Michael Samdahl
Logistician
Montana Man Forge
Youtube: https://youtube.com/@montanamanmarketing
@montanamanmarketing

 
Posted : 08/03/2023 11:10 am
Posts: 51
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Michael Samdahl

I do the copper damascus by watching the temperatures.  Really the copper braises to the steel.  1st I create the damascus forge to 1/8" ish.  then I used a center 1084 3/16" core.  .4mm copper sheet on each side, then the layer of damascus.  I keep the copper about 1/8" smaller all around to avoid getting copper in my welds.

Now comes the most important part.  you MUST weld the entire edge of the billet to completely seal everything.  

and now the part I have the most difficulty with.  Keeping the core in the center.  You want to get some variation to get the ripple in the copper by using an aggressive rounding die.  But watch the pressure and ensure you do both sides evenly or the center core will not stay in the center and you will get copper on the blade edge.

Watch your temperatures.  I use a temp gun.  copper melts at 1085C and steel is 2-300C higher.  you need to avoid the copper melting but getting hot enough to braise to the steel.  AND avoid working it too cold.

If you see copper leaking out of a weld at any time, stop grind out the weld to clean out the copper from the edge and re-weld.

Once you get to your desired blade thickness, you need to do stock removal to get the final shape.  If you try and forge the blade to shape, you will cause a delam in the steel-copper-steel union.

It does NOT make the strongest blade, but it makes a pretty blade.

Disclaimer, I have only been bladesmithing for a couple of years, the masters here can and should correct all my errors...

Bob Bryenton
Solar Storm Group Ltd.
Phone: (780) 953-0016
Email: [email protected]
https://www.solarstorm.ca

“The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible" -- Arthur C. Clarke

 
Posted : 08/03/2023 11:55 am
Posts: 51
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This was what I am calling a Modern Frontier set.  A Bowie and a Tomahawk (which was much harder than I thought)

Bob Bryenton
Solar Storm Group Ltd.
Phone: (780) 953-0016
Email: [email protected]
https://www.solarstorm.ca

“The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible" -- Arthur C. Clarke

 
Posted : 20/03/2023 8:54 am
Posts: 53
Trusted Member Apprentice Bladesmith
 

  Wendell Bryenton,

I think those creations are really great, but just like you said the Masters here can and hopefully will set us straight on our thoughts. I have appreciated so much this learning period. I had no idea how much a $60 subscription would add in value. Probably the best thing I have ever done. 

Respectfully and Godspeed,

Michael Samdahl
Logistician
Montana Man Forge
Youtube: https://youtube.com/@montanamanmarketing
@montanamanmarketing

 
Posted : 20/03/2023 5:19 pm
Posts: 53
Trusted Member Apprentice Bladesmith
 

Domonick DeFino,

You Sir are on another level. Your first blade was a Katana?..... I mean leave some success options for the rest of us.... geeze... 

Nice work man, honestly impressive.

Respectfully and Godspeed,

Michael Samdahl
Logistician
Montana Man Forge
Youtube: https://youtube.com/@montanamanmarketing
@montanamanmarketing

 
Posted : 23/03/2023 6:36 pm
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